Showing posts with label Trek 560. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Trek 560. Show all posts

Sunday, July 8, 2012

Trek 560: A Racey Old Friend


I bought this '84 Trek 560 over a year ago, and though it doesn't get ridden as much as my other bikes, it has come to fill an important role in my vast stable of bikes (Ok, by "vast stable" I mean I have three rideable bikes and a few boxes full of parts). It's the indispensable sexy-sunny-day-go-fast bike. The 560 occupies the same sort of place in my bike collection as the "LBD" occupies in the wardrobes of a lot of women I know. For most serious cyclists these days an LBD bike is most likely going to be something modern, carbon fiber and quite a bit lighter than this old Trek. But for the non-competitive riding I do, I really don't think those modern carbon wonders have anything over my Trek 560 (says the retro-grouch in me...).

The 560 was designed to be a stripped down criterium racing machine so it just wouldn't be right to add fenders, racks and lights and load it down like a pack animal. Of course, being fenderless in Seattle means this bike spends a lot of it's time stashed away in the basement, but when the sun is out and I'm not expecting to be out riding after dark, the Trek 560 is usually my first choice.

From the original '84 Trek catalog

As with most bikes that pass through my hands, many of the 560's components have been switched a time or two since I've owned it. There's very little of the original bike left in this build. It's currently set up with a modern-ish drive train and wheels, and I wanted to be able to ride this in fast group rides, so brifters were called for instead of the original downtube shifters. The mix of parts is about as mongrel as it gets with the drive train including Campagnolo, Shimano, Suntour and SRAM. Yes, all four. And it actually works! I guess you could call it a "Campagsramanotour" drive train.

The cockpit

It started with the shifters. I've never owned a bike with Campy Ergo shifters before but I've always liked the feel of the hoods in my hands and way the levers work (thumbs to go faster, fingers to go slower). So I started researching what it would cost to switch the entire drive train over to Campagnolo. Shifters, derailleurs, cassette, chain, rear wheel... Wow! For a bike that I paid only a couple hundred bucks for originally I was looking at several hundred dollars to change it over to an older, used Campy group. That didn't make much sense, especially since all I really wanted was Campy shifters, so I started investigating cheaper options. That's when I learned about "Shimergo" drive trains.

There are a few variations of Shimergo but essentially it's a drive train with Campy ergo shifters and Shimano rear derailleur and cassette. Depending on how you mix and match the number of speeds, there are some different tricks for getting the indexing of the shifters to line up with the cogs on the cassette including 1) an adapter called the Shiftmate, 2) the "hubbub modification," or 3) just taking advantage of a "happy coincidence."

By happy coincidence I mean those cases where in spite of Campagnolo's and Shimano's best efforts to make their component groups proprietary and incompatible with each other, they stumbled a few times. With so many variations over the years (7 speed, 8 speed, 9 speed, 10 speed, 11 speed..., different models, etc.) there are a few combinations that just happen to work together. For example, Campy Ergo 10 speed shifters of a certain era just happen to line up perfectly with Shimano and SRAM 8 speed cassettes if you're using the right era of Shimano rear derailleur. Luckily there are generous people out there with more time than I have who have researched all of the different combinations and have posted their findings on the internet. Here are a couple of the articles I found extremely helpful:



For my build, I took advantage of the Campy Ergo 10 speed/Shimano 8 speed happy coincidence I described above. The shifters have a couple of clicks more than there are cogs in the cassette, but the limiters on the rear derailleur prevent you from going there, so the shifters behave exactly as they should for an 8 speed drive train. You can use pretty much anything you want for the front derailleur since the Campy Ergo shifters aren't really indexed for front shifting. I used the original Suntour front derailleur just so I could keep something original in this build.

Oh yeah, then there's the SRAM part. SRAM cassettes use the same spacing as Shimano, so they are completely compatible. (what were they thinking?) I used a SRAM cassette just because they had one with the range I wanted and that Shimano doesn't offer, and the price was right.

With the Campagsramanotour drive train worked out, I was able to put this bike together using a lot of parts I already had. Here's the rundown of parts:

Wheels: Forte Titan wheelset
Tires: Conti Gatorskins 25mm
Handlebars: Nitto Noodles
Shifters: Campagnolo Veloce 10 speed
Front Derailleur: Suntour Cyclone Mk II (the only part other than the frame, fork and headset that's original to the bike)
Rear Derailleur: Shimano 105
Cassette: SRAM 12-26 8 speed
Brakes: Tektro R530 calipers
Crankset: IRD Defiant Compact (a copy of 1970s Campy Strada, but with a 110BCD spider so it can handle "compact" sized rings)

IRD Defiant Compact Crank with 50T and 34T Rings

Seatpost: VO
Stem: Nitto Technomic Deluxe
Saddle: Selle San Marco Regal

The main triangle of the frame is made of Reynolds 501 tubing which is similar to the venerable 531 tubing, but seamed and a bit more robust (aka, heavier). Stays and forks are Tange Mangalloy. The fork has a nice sloping fork crown and the frame has bosses for one bottle on the downtube, and no rack bosses or fender eyelets. No unnecessary doodads here; this bike was built to race.

The handling of the 560 is always a bit of a shock when I first get on it. It handles exactly like a racing bike ought to handle. Thanks to relatively steep angles and short chain stays the handling is quick and precise. The frame has the plushness of steel in the way it absorbs vibration, but it's also very tight and stiff. When you stand up on the pedals, it responds immediately. The 560 always inspires me to ride hard and aggressively. The ride is definitely rougher than my other two bikes (Trek 311 and VO Randonneur), but for rides of up to about 200k it's fine. Longer than that and the stiffness of the ride and the attention that the handling requires get tiring. For my typical 40 - 60 mile training rides the 560 is perfect.

Even with the strange mix of parts, this bike just feels right and works flawlessly. Shifting is spot on with that unmistakeable Campy "ka-chunk." The Tektro brakes grab far better than the original single pivot side pulls the bike came with. There's still some room for improvement, for instance the wheels aren't great. The hubs make a grinding sound similar to the sound my knees make when I walk up stairs, but inspite of the noise they seem to roll well.

As described here, the 560 weighs a little under 22 lbs (including pedals and bottle cage). Hardly a lightweight by modern bike standards, but it's still a blast to ride which is where it's really at.

Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Addicted to Old Steel

Uh oh... I think I may be developing an addiction. No, it's not to pain pills (although I did spend a few days in a very pleasant Percocet-induced stupor after the surgery on my arm). My addiction is to cheap old bikes on Craig's List.


It started so innocently when I ran across a 1982 Trek 311 on CL last fall. I’m not sure why I was even looking at bikes on CL, it’s not like I needed another bike. But I’ve always heard great things about those old lugged steel Treks, and for $75 I couldn’t afford to not buy it, right? I bought it in the same way you might pick up a box of those deep-fried jalapeno poppers at Trader Joe's after they hand you a sample on a toothpick.


That Trek 311 turned out to be a really great old bike and I’ve had a lot of fun fixing it up and trying out different configurations. I’ve come to love the the simplicity of friction shifting and a two by six speed drive train. Since I bought it, the Trek has become my most ridden bike even though I already had two much newer and "nicer" bikes.


The only thing about the 311 that isn’t quite perfect is that the frame is just on the edge of being too big for me. The problem is that back in the day Treks came in only five sizes: 19.75" (or occasionally 19" instead), 21", 22.5”, 24" and 25.5". The right size for me is really about halfway between 21” and 22.5”. The 311 is a 22.5” and I’ve made it fit by using a shorter stem and scooting the saddle forward a bit. It’s very comfortable as it’s currently set up, but I’ve really wanted to try a similar Trek in the 21” size so I could find out if that works even better.

As a result, I've spent the past several months scouring Craig’s List looking for a similar Trek with a 21” frame. The idea (aka, "rationalization") was that I could buy it, try both for a little while and then keep the one that fits the best and sell the other. Well, last week I finally found a good candidate. It’s a 1984 Trek 560. The price was reasonable and it was in decent shape, so I bought it. It’s not quite in as good condition as the 311 which was virtually unused and totally original when I bought it. The 560 has most of the original parts, but somewhere along the way it got some funky replacement wheels and a new saddle, and the frame shows it's age with a lot a scratches and chips. But mechanically it's all there and working well.


So, here’s where the addiction comes in. I've only ridden the 560 a couple times, but I'm definitely feeling like I have to keep both bikes. The 560 is completely different than than the 311 (somewhere, my wife just rolled her eyes at that comment). The 311 is a "sport touring" bike with a relatively long wheel base and solid predictable handling, while the 560 is a full-on racing bike with short chain stays, tight clearances and snappy handling. The larger frame of the 311 allows a more upright position that's really comfortable for all day rides. The smaller frame of the 560 puts me in a more aggressive position that just makes me want to ride hard and fast. So you can see why I need to keep both, right? Right?


The good news is that Sarah hasn't dropped the either-the-bikes-go-or-I-go ultimatum on me yet, and it's cheap old bikes we're talking about here rather than boats, cars, motorcycles or methamphetamine. Still, just to be safe I think I'll lay low for a while and try to stay away from Craig's list. I suspect 1980s Treks are just a "gateway" bike. It won't be long before they no longer get me high and I'll move on to Italian or French bikes.